Since some www.indymedia.org website subdomains, for example, www.boston.indymedia.org, no longer have the ability to "search" directly (one can, for example, use one search index to [ site:web.archive.org/web/20060201010107/http://www.indymedia.org/en/ "goodexample.info" ] to do it; though in one case G/E is no longer locating some Newswire articles written and can not recall "login" name nor password, no email return ability, and does not have copy (anymore...here are some of them. Awaijting updates tgo integrative links....

Clearly for years back it is no longer currently indexed or the website has changed again, php, etc.

"There once was a "Free [software] Community" (www.nipl.net)

"The threat of a [www.goodexample.info]," 26 Aug 2008 16:51 GMT

It is hardly news that much of what is claimed to be "f*ee", even when it "nearly" is, really means "no charge", just "give" "personal information", etc., or less discussed, "no charge" to download this song in proprietary format, or to "read" this "file" which is in propriatry format. In short what happened to www.nipl.net?

Thanks to the Internet Archive, (www.archive.org), "the Internet Archive of Record" -- "of record" in a positive sense, unlike the way, righfully so, it can be used to refer to: "the newspaper of record", and more recently the "search index of record", and there's the "filtered democracy of record", with its 2008 "Do Not Consent Convention "coverage" - save the flaws to the Bill of Rights, that is, what is "missed" (caged free speech, only by not looking), even hosting "conversations and conventions" - which of course includes context for discussing "democracy", the forms where and as it may exist. (1) NIPL (http://web.archive.org/web/20060101032654/nipl.net/) Well it (www.nipl.net) was a "Free Community", not simply, one that was "no charge" but then one is "asked" for something, be it "personal information, email address, place references to "sister sites" in the footer of webpages for "nonfree hosting" and on it goes (till free from free). (Of course one's that are are "f*ee" one can freely "support" in both monetary and various way, be it propagating, integarting and a lot of ways one can "help.") This is dated, that is, it has been a number of years since www.nipl.net was not simply in the Internet Archive (Do any search indexed reference this? So that are webpages that are nolonger "active" can be found? - "We provide web pages, email, shell/vnc and other services, with personal technical support, to individuals and organizations. All of our services are free. We hope to encourage people to help one another without using money or asking anything in return. Free software "hackers" have been doing this for years in the software world; let's try it in the real world too! " Can you help nipl.net with colocation? nipl.net is "free community", a server running only free software, providing extensive services to the world. " http://www.fsf.org/news/nipl ("Make Poverty History")

1.) "The POLITICO Convention Conversations African-American leaders participate in a panel discussion sponsored by POLITICO, ['whowho or "filtered democracy] and The Denver Post. Featured speakers include; House Maj. Whip Rep. James Clyburn (D-SC), Fmr. Gov. Doug Wilder (D-VA), Rep. Jesse Jackson Jr. (D-IL), talk show host Tavis Smiley, and Professor Cornell West of Princeton University." http://www.c-span.org/videoarchives.asp?CatCodePairs=,&ArchiveDays=100) http://www.oct17.org/album.php3?id_rubrique=79&id_article=244〈=en - "World Day to Overcome Extreme Poverty 17 October Maybe this is an answwer to "what happened to www.nipl.net? (in its current form. If so, maybe FSF ought to have an updated pointer to it.....) Govinda "is a Pentium II Machine that works at 233MHz with 64 MB RAM. It is built with GNU/Linux Debian, which means, it is built using Free Software." "What's in a name?" (http://www.gnu.org.ua/gnu/why-gnu-linux.html)



notforlong383zat@goodexample.info">notforlong383zat@goodexample.info -0-=0=0=-0=-0=- Let Ralph Maveri'gate (recalling the UMASS "debates") G.E. 20 Sep 2004 16:33 GMT 99988098908 www.subvertise.org 'em without furthering name recognition, mainly form critical association public rapsohody, private profit 24 Mar 2005 00:03 GMT Continue being critical of corporate "profit[eering] over people" but why use even their font when the point could be made other ways and with less chance of even more name recognition. 'Bow to shareholders or "serve the servants"? Please excuse a barage from "the threat of a [www.goodexample.info]", aka "persistent annoyance", and the form. G/E is "down" at the moment - not the one that 'brings' great profits to shareholders. lklk;;lk;lk;lk;l The [free]manz.com on the street" notforlong383zat@goodexample.info 22 Oct 2008 19:57 GMT Reflecting on hearing Martin Voekler (Alternative Radio still?) and Hank Faunce on 91.5 FM in Medford, Somerville, and of course "beyond", and hearing Freemanz's "audio" being "plugged" for a change, and other integrative connections, well maybe. 9098098098098 'The [Integrated, mass independent] media' The threat of a non-atomized citizenry 02 Apr 2011 18:14 GMT More "integration" among individuals, organizations, varying forms of the media is possible, and probably necessary for those in whatever way they can be "in the unending struggle for freedom and democracy..." (of course both terms in a different sense than the way they are usually "presumed" or propagated by some forms of the media. This is what (lack of) "[Integration] Looks Like" Well, so much for "integration" in the sense that Noam Chomsky speaks of (in particular from Z (Zeta) Magazine interview as evident by way of G/E getting no response nor seeing identified concern resolved that was noted by electronic mail to admin@chomsky.info.... G/E tried to get a reference resolved at http://chomsky.info/interviews.htm but though an acknowledgment was not expected, one might have thought the reference would be corrected. Hopefully more people will support Alternative Radio, and others to get the transcript (though many times talks and interviews are "available" or readily saved by way of audio recordings directly from radio or "archives." ironically, maybe, one is more apt to find reference to above talks from so-called private institutions, that is, from some radio stations associated with universities: WMFO, WMBR, and WZBC, three that come to mind that one can even at times hear a radio ID by Noam Chomsky, as well as B.B. King! Still thinking of Dinnertime Sampler, probably the only time a guest did not play some of the music they enjoy: when Noam Chomsky was on! Miss those Wednesday evenings, if memory.... br/> From: "the threat of a [www.]goodexample.info" -- www.readchomsky.info - at a harvard subway, anywhere.... Reply-to: notforlong3834**@goodexample.info To: admin@chomsky.info Subject: Intergration Link for: The Meaning of Seattle. With David Barsamian. February, 2000 is no longer.... The integrative link reference "The Meaning of Seattle. With David Barsamian. February, 2000." at www.chomsky.info/interviews.htm points to http://www.zmag.org/ZMag/articles/july00barsamian.htm which appears to no longer be the form of articles, etc. (generally now the form of the title of article and author rather than numeric as part of URL.) ;'l';l;dld'l;d;'d This one is still "current." http://publish.portland.indymedia.org/en/2003/01/39874.shtml Portland IMC Now I got a solar bus, 'INDYthoughtful discu. 03.Jan.2003 07:07 James Zappia link

January 3, 2002

I was reading Noam Chomsky on Anarchism, Marxism & Hope for the Future yesterday, again, and in addition to several areas of discussion, ideas about someone trying to tell anyone who has been involved in grassroots struggles in Haiti about democracy and understanding of the sense of some terms solely based on some dictionary definition or what I call propagation through corporate coordinators.

"The general intellectual culture, as you know, associates 'anarchism' with chaos, violence, bombs, disruption, and so on."

CHOMSKY: "I'm reluctant to use fancy polysyllables like philosophy to refer to what seems ordinary common sense. And I'm also uncomfortable with slogans..."

Out of order and context but just the same (it's rather "quick" reading):

... "When we turn to vastly more complex questions of human significance, understanding is very thin, and there is plenty of room for disagreement, experimentation, both intellectual and real-life exploration of possibilities, to help us learn more." ...

"All misrepresentation is a nuisance." ... "It will exist as long as concentrations of power engender a kind of commissar class to defend them."

See "coordinator class", Michael Albert's ideas on this

...

"I'm afraid it's hard for me to answer this. If the left is understood to include 'Bolshevism,' then I would flatly dissociate myself from the left. Lenin was one of the greatest enemies of socialism, in my opinion, for reasons I've discussed. The idea that workers are only interested in horse-racing is an absurdity that cannot withstand even a superficial look at labour history or the lively and independent working class press that flourished in many places, including the manufacturing towns of New England not many miles from where I'm writing - not to speak of the inspiring record of the courageous struggles of persecuted and oppressed people throughout history, until this very moment. Take the most miserable corner of this hemisphere, Haiti, regarded by the European conquerors as a paradise and the source of no part of Europe's wealth, now devastated, perhaps beyond recovery. In the past few years, under conditions so miserable that few people in the rich countries can imagine them, peasants and slum-dwellers constructed a popular democratic movement based on grassroots organizations that surpasses just about anything I know of elsewhere; only deeply committed commissars could fail to collapse with ridicule when they hear the solemn pronouncements of American intellectuals and political leaders about how the US has to teach Haitians the lessons of democracy. Their achievements were so substantial and frightening to the powerful that they had to be subjected to yet another dose of vicious terror, with considerably more US support than is publicly acknowledged, and they still have not surrendered. Are they interested only in horse-racing?"

In regards to my humming (only to myself) 'now I got my private bus, Goodbye Mr. Bush' before and after s11, how one gets to and from protests or anywhere, and I'll add protests and large gatherings as much as I think are more and more necessary in the U.S. are an indication, so-called democracy is hardly flourishing.

If you have a well meaning sign but yet are completely unaware of even local radio shows with a different perspectives or one your sign parallels, rather than so-called corporate news then there's space. I refrain for the overly used "educate them".

Don't Honk if your burning fossil fuel

"I think it only makes sense to seek out and identify structures of authority, hierarchy, and domination in every aspect of life, and to challenge them; unless a justification for them can be given, they are illegitimate, and should be dismantled, to increase the scope of human freedom."

At the 'Feet Center, I still refer to the site as the Boston Garden, I recall before going n to Nader Rally al the corporate fast food munching going on, cell phones (unless an independent network that I'm still looking for or phone company quite unlike anything I know to exist has appeared depending on your own stance or degree it may not even make it to the threshold of noticing) or the women I did hear interviewed who said,'I will vote for Gore' because I don't want' you know who to "win".

Another work in progress Axis of, I mean Domains of Concern regional areas in the U.S. connecting more so with broad groups of individuals and organizations...

And even if from your view someone is yuppie this or that whatever though they are likely part of the system they're trying s they see fir to change things from within so who is to says, personal judgment, I suspect.

Acts of Civil... unlike the silly "Axis of.." and it must be clear as Chomsky noted even if Bush didn't know the significance of the term his speech writers did!

And if at other times, less so lately, I have snarled at someone when seeing them in considered to require fewer restrictions than trucks, those silly ugly vehicles but for other reasons besides me not caring for someone appearing to judge me based solely on my hair length not being "crew cut" length, dating myself here probably, or noticing anyone dressed in the as is evident on the public transport system, those dreary corporate colors of gray and black I hardly see it in itself as productive. Nor would my showing up at a scheduled permit event and someone thinking I'm a "peacenik" I'd me willing to talk and let them have a chance to move beyond somewhat empty categories.

I can't locate the particular reference I was looking relating to interaction between individuals and larger groups but I would not say you can do "nothing', one's choices and actions each day do "something" in one form or another.

"Harris's attitude towards the importance of the movement rather than individual achievement is reflected in Chomsky's attitude towards biographical studies. Harris's teaching style, so clearly charged with the spirit of left libertarianism, and his commitment to encouraging rather than stifling individual creativity, are echoed in Chomsky's approach to pedagogy, group relations, and appropriate political frameworks."

< http://boston.indymedia.org/front.php3?article_id=8545"> If the goal is to get on the 'cover of the rolling stone... Some so-called independent bands or more accurately individuals are critical of the corporate video consumer conveyor but yet have a goal to get a video on there. Or I would hope there's more creative ways to utilize people's efforts than: "wanted" people to be used as sign posts".

In regards to the permit to assemble freely I recall someone from Vermont and the protester noting 'okay it's okay to move another ten feet' or something like that. Ah.

Twenty year ago I recall the number of people who showed up in the morning on a moments notice following what might have been announced that night (working nights at the time) at the Orpheum in Boston because the Rolling Stones were doing a club tour (played in Worcester) after mayor rejected any idea of an open show at Government Center. If only crowds of people were at more protests and in spirit, not there but in their own way maybe doing things that complemented and maybe even a form of synergy with these actions then....

Fred Thys report from Vermont? Black Bloc and Billionaires for Bush (and Gore), Jan 1 2001? Still miss the Billionaires for..button that I had worn proudly since the Dudley to UMASS march but lost.

Not a disclaimer but as all too often writing on the fly and unable now to reflect on the many key points raised by who I think his sign-off captures what's needed but that's just my opinion.

Thanks Marko Rafmustard

It was a fine example of a post that as I have tried to make reference to in IndyMedia Newswire not just possibly being a better actual bulletin board but having a forum for the many issues and concerns that are raised to continue discussion and to foster more connections.

http://lynx.dac.neu.edu/j/jzappia/sum.html#feed ...... rally reporter: I thought you said count FBI 04.Jan.2003 03:37 JZ link Yea in the Boston area I saw way too much from Jill Stein for governor and Randall Forsberg write-in for senator, for example, trying to get on the 'cover of the corporate news' rather than them and their supporters addressing the need for a continued and expanding awareness of existing independent media. Jill Stein made some appearances on Radio with A View, No Censorship Radio and others programs in Boston area (webcasting to world) and made clear that she is not part of "backroom" dealings and indebted to anyone from contributions corporate connections but I think efforts to respond to ther exclusion even at one glaring case a health care forum and maybe because of her qualifications she would have stood in front of the field even more so. There was some commentary that she actually was considered the most articulate and one having much to offer but the corporate 'du-opoly has yet to be dismantled. There was some reports yesterday that Toomey in order to 'balance the Massachusetts budget' will put forward some 'cuts that won't be to distressing to the NEEDY'. I for one when I hear someone characterized as 'needy' or from a 'poor community' or on and on it hardly addresses roots of issues and shows the arrogance of 'public service to underwriter radio to propagate without comment from anyone not representing the sponsors. Reflective Action {prior to} Needless Tomorrow's --> http://boston.indymedia.org/front.php3?article_id=9846&group=webcast Laughing to keep from supporting (WMBR et al) - Barry Crimmins and Jimmy Tingle, etc. -- http://boston.indymedia.org/front.php3?article_id=8953 klkjlkjkljlkj [IMC-Tech] Mail Address Pointers on www.process.indymedia.org have wrong address and point to non-existent page James Zappia jzappia at lynx.neu.edu Sat Jul 6 10:37:04 2002 Previous message: [IMC-Tech] Periodismo y Poesía - Cristina Castello Next message: [IMC-Tech] newlist IMC-nice Messages sorted by: [ date ] [ thread ] [ subject ] [ author ] This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0025_01C22426.32BD0200 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Sorry for not being as brief and concise as Ralph Cramden, The = Honeymooners, when he have his response to the game show host in an = attempt to name the song that he had kept having to hear Ed Norton use = to warm up before playing the piano during their practice for the show. "humna humna humnda Ed Norton?" I'm sorry, Good Night. "Good night good night a sing written in = 1952..."as he starts rattaling off all he knows about poplular songs. = Why start with this? Even Milton Berle in 1957 (looking for show = source) stated that the people own the airwaves.=20 The mailing lists pointers at www.process.indymedia.org such as the = enclosed imc-tech appear to me to point to = www.lists.indymedia.org/imc-tech/ and result in a reference to a = non-existent page rather than to = www.lists.indymedia.org/listinfo/imc-tech/ which in turn gives the = current mail address, imc-tech%20at%20lists.indymedia.org .=20 Is it meant to limit mail to only those willing to find the correct = address that's on the Mailing Lists page imc-tech%20at%20indymedia.org This is the list for people who are working on general indymedia = technical issues and programming concerns. There is also a list for = people working on the web code that underlies the indymedia sites at = webcoders%20at%20cat.org.au Also, I read at www.boston.indymedia.org that an editor was delayed in = posting an article because of having to wait for someone else to perfom = the action. Shouldn't all editors be able to post an article. Pardon = if this has been discussed at length or is irrelvant. James Zappia = (http://lynx.dac.neu.edu/j/jzappia/mainstream-awareness.html=20 FSRN (www.fsrn.org) did a segment on Jauodat but has it reached to = individuals and organizations already committed to peace and justice and = extend to others watching TV "news" to see if it's raining out? =20 Hi, while far too many, virtually all of them, corporate media, have = agendas other than reporting the truth as accurately as possible there = are sources of news that affects us all. Free Speech Radio News had a = segment concerning Jaoudat yesterday, Tuesday, July 3, 2002. http://www.fsrn.org/news/20020702_news.html INS Tortures Palestinian Student Activist (4:30) Despite widespread public and legal pressure, the US Immigration and = Naturalization Service continues to imprison hundreds, if not thousands = of immigrants on technical visa violations or similar minor charges. In = recent months, the Department of Justice has stepped up the repression = in a wave of detentions apparently directed at secular, = politically-active immigrants. After a hearing last Thursday, = Boston-area resident Jaoudat Abouazza remains in prison where he has = been subjected to what some are calling torture. Wajid Jenkins files = this report. Also, for all those who debate or take sides over = "local/national/global/' issues to the point of cable stations not = airing shows such as Democracy NOW! (TV3 in Medford) because it is not = locally produced miss the point much like those who still consider = nature and nuture as either predominately one or the other or even those = who consider some contribution from both don't come close to recognizing = the degree of interrelatedness far better put than I can do by Stephen = Pinker in his Language Instinct book. Sorry to ramble! I am also glad that as being one of the 100 or so supporters that the = facts will reach even more people now. It confirmed something I already = know that we are all connected and actions taken in Boston or anyway for = a cause can and will have affects throughout which only goes to show = that it is narrowsighted to view local, national and global issues as = disjoint or minimally related. I have yet to write but I hope Jaoudat knows that there's many others = who sppport him and now that the facts have been presented by an = independent national show further support and accountabilty for those = responsibile from the Cambridge Police on through must come. James Zappia Kevin Danaher, co-founder of Global Exchange (www.globalexchange.org = quote during a Scott Harris interview: ..."giving hipocracy a bad name" = in regards to U.S. demands for other countries to "tighten their belts" = concerning debt. See Between the Lines http://www.wpkn.org/wpkn/news/btl.html They are = one example of a show with both content and who help form and strengthen = connections beteeen organizations and individuals by their use of links = related to guests and sources of information and as well phone numbers = and addresses (for as I like to say anyone who doesn't want to sign = their name to use a computer at public library). ------=_NextPart_000_0025_01C22426.32BD0200 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Sorry for not being as brief and concise as = Ralph=20 Cramden, The Honeymooners, when he have his response to the = game show=20 host in an attempt to name the song that he had kept having to hear = Ed=20 Norton use to warm up before playing the piano during their practice for = the=20 show.
 
    "humna humna humnda Ed=20 Norton?"
 
  I'm sorry, Good Night.  "Good night good = night a=20 sing written in 1952..."as he starts rattaling off all he knows = about=20 poplular songs.  Why start with this?  Even Milton Berle in = 1957=20 (looking for show source) stated that the people own the=20 airwaves. 
 
 
The mailing lists pointers at www.process.indymedia.org = such as=20 the enclosed imc-tech appear to me to point to www.lists.indymedia.org= /imc-tech/=20 and result in a reference to a non-existent page rather than=20 to  www.lists.indy= media.org/listinfo/imc-tech/  which=20 in turn gives the current mail address, imc-tech%20at%20lists.indymedia.org=  . 
 
Is it meant to limit mail to only those willing to = find the=20 correct address that's on the Mailing Lists page
 
imc-tech%20at%20indymedia.orgThis is=20 the list for people who are working on general indymedia technical = issues and=20 programming concerns. There is also a list for people working on the web = code=20 that underlies the indymedia sites at webcoders%20at%20cat.org.au
 
Also, I read at www.boston.indymedia.org&nbs= p;that an=20 editor was delayed in posting an article because = of having to=20 wait for someone else to perfom the action.  Shouldn't all editors = be able=20 to post an article.  Pardon if this has been discussed at = length or is=20 irrelvant.
 
James Zappia (http= ://lynx.dac.neu.edu/j/jzappia/mainstream-awareness.html <= /DIV>
FSRN  (www.fsrn.org)  did a segment on = Jauodat but=20 has it reached to individuals and organizations already committed to = peace and=20 justice and extend to others watching TV "news" to see if it's raining=20 out?
 =20
Hi, while far too many, virtually all of them, = corporate=20 media, have agendas other than reporting the truth as accurately as=20 possible  there are sources of news that affects us all. Free = Speech Radio=20 News had a segment concerning Jaoudat yesterday, Tuesday, July 3,=20 2002.
 
http://www.fsrn.org/= news/20020702_news.html
 
INS Tortures Palestinian Student=20 Activist  (4:30)
Despite widespread public and = legal=20 pressure, the US Immigration and Naturalization Service continues to = imprison=20 hundreds, if not thousands of immigrants on technical visa violations or = similar=20 minor charges. In recent months, the Department of Justice has stepped = up the=20 repression in a wave of detentions apparently directed at secular,=20 politically-active immigrants.  After a hearing last Thursday, = Boston-area resident Jaoudat Abouazza remains in prison where he has = been=20 subjected to what some are calling torture. Wajid Jenkins files this=20 report.

Also, for all those who debate or take = sides over=20 "local/national/global/' issues to the point of cable stations not = airing shows=20 such as Democracy NOW! (TV3 in Medford) because it is not locally = produced miss=20 the point much like those who still consider nature and nuture as either = predominately one or the other or even those who consider some = contribution from both don't come close to recognizing the degree of=20 interrelatedness far better put than I can do by Stephen Pinker in = his=20 Language Instinct book.  Sorry to ramble!
 
I am also glad that as being one of the 100 or so = supporters=20 that the facts will reach even more people now.  It confirmed = something I=20 already know that we are all connected and actions taken in Boston or = anyway for=20 a cause can and will have affects throughout which only goes to show = that it is=20 narrowsighted to view local, national and global issues as disjoint or = minimally=20 related.
 
I have yet to write but I hope Jaoudat knows = that there's=20 many others who sppport him and now that the facts have been=20 presented by an independent national show further = support=20 and accountabilty for those responsibile from the Cambridge Police on = through=20 must come.
 
James Zappia
 
Kevin Danaher, co-founder of Global Exchange (www.globalexchange.org qu= ote during=20 a Scott Harris interview:  ..."giving hipocracy a bad name" in = regards=20 to U.S. demands for other countries to "tighten their belts" concerning=20 debt.
 
See Between the Lines http://www.wpkn.org/wpkn/= news/btl.html They=20 are one example of a show with both content and who help form and=20 strengthen connections beteeen organizations and individuals by = their use=20 of links related to guests and sources of information and as well phone = numbers=20 and addresses (for as I like to say anyone who doesn't want to sign = their name=20 to use a computer at public library).
 
l;k;lkk;lkl http://www.indymedia.org/el/2010/03/935071.shtml" Gandi (www.gandi.net) Domains for "no charge" for one year.... G/E 07 Mar 2010 12:26 GMT Gandi (www.gandi.net) though the website and logo at one time "looked" less "commerical" it is relatively "independent" and offers a lot (as well supports: http://en.gandi.net/supports/debian/ and others - it refers to as "projects" which may be confusing... Gandi has consistently been adding to what it has available: beyond registry for domain names, there is Gandi Mail, Hosting, etc., and now in its tenth year Gandi "wanted to thank [existing "customers"] for [their] support by giving away 55,000 domain names. Over the years G/E - not to be confused with 'bringing great profits to shareholders' -- as required to do: Dodge Brothers case (www.chomsky.info/interviews/20070402.htm) -- has many times referred to them and others that G/E considers a "threat of a good example." The success that Gandi has enjoyed over the past 10 years has largely been due to the support that our customers have given us. So many of you have shared your positive experiences at Gandi with others which is very heartening. In partnership with several registries, we have decided to thank you by giving you up to 10 promo codes that you can use to create ]no charge] domains name (promo codes valid until March 31th 2010)" If you know someone who is registered with Gandi or uses them for hosting, etc. let them know - they might not have seen this... https://ten.gandi.net/faq e-mail:: notforlong383cc@goodexample.info jlkjlkjkl http://www.indymedia.org/en/2005/03/871319.shtml: Community Windows - not another generic "Fresh Hair" Trademark "persistent tour guide" 27 Mar 2005 13:31 GMT Look mommy, there goes a 'win-a-bagel'. Tyshana, that mobile home is a CriticalCitizen - she points to differences leading to confusion over a trade name getting assumed be the only form there is. One intent of Community Windows is to integrate and support corporate independence, "the few over many", in a loose way, the goal being support of independent shops generally such as food, cafe, personal care (hair chops, etc.), and in particular concern with an emphasis to book shops, publishers, independent media - current and emerging forms: campus-community radio, websites and "free [4 Freedoms] Software" rather than nonfree, proprietary audio related archives, webcasting, radio program complementary information resource pool for that which can not ae provided during program, etc, by way of a form of "complementing tips". Granted their ought to be a symbolic representation, IMC comes close, to denote independence, a supporter and actor of common disinterest in terms of [independent] media, books, on and on. A way to show appreciation for the shops provisions, and for others who may not yet be patrons to facilitate a nascent opportunity by their recognition, again by anyone, patron or not, who sees and appreciates a Community Windows (or better yeat some general all-locales<->global independent media supporter, developer, etc. as well as all that is related to uprooting the "memory hole" of previous efforts in the proclaimed cause for "stability" and all those who have be killed or continue to suffer. It goes with out saying that so many do not currently utilize their windoes in the community adequately to connect and integrate with what they do and what do. In the case of some shop fronts playwoodght as well cover the class because you can't see in or out anyhow. The intent is not to replace one barrier with a wall of flyers but forms of concentrated informative resource connections beyond the bounds of traditional fyers that sometimes leave out related connections, historical and contemporary relations that might foster a widening of a circle of people not having accepted a compelete randomness of life - it can appear as such if you're a corporate consumer - you know those fossil transportrrs out in the mountains, hill, slopes as if that's where t people drive. add a comment on this article CW in "operation" Persisent window display 24x7 27.Mar.2005 14:46 For about a two month period CW (Community Windows) was nearly, fully in use in the windows of a "barber shop" in Davis Square, Somerville, MA. Aside from the potential to connect CW "flyers" with an existing, or possibly future "patron"-supporter of the shop, in this case AirwaveWEB and TecsChange info-resources with pointers to phone numbers, websites, radio station frequencies, etc. were in the windows, along with description of CW's intent on back of flyer - obviously only seen from inside but the general connection made from the outside - between something someone might already know about various independent media forms, independent bookshops and publishers, etc. or may not, and who as a result of seeing "flyer" might place some monetary amount of change or what not in a nicely visible antique-like vase (not a can with no descriptive mention other than "tips"). Ideally in the case of the independent media if only there was some sort of "anti-"subvertise.org symbolic designator to connect those who area already have aof reality in the real world so that they would know that the flyer is in regards to such media or generally regarding independent shops, organizations, etc. Some example ways to use: Community Support & Two Senses of Outreach help defray flyer and book announcements... Supporting Independence and those who display 'flyers' via Community WindowsCommunity Advertizing Citizenry The works, Community Windows and Advertising Citizenry, are licensed under a Creative Commons License. Lucy Parsons Center --Community Support Request 549 Columbus Ave., Facilitating Justice, Not the U.S. Way All forms of support are welcome, community outreach via posting "flyers" and creating other ways towards prominence and "persuade others to persuade themselves" to support independent bookshops, media, and much else Complement "Buy Nothing Day" with support of independence all the time. Also needed is monetary support to defray the cost of event and book annoucement flyers. "Not so "New" now book arrivals" at Lucy Parsons Center. A prominent, glass container may be more effective to request community outreach and support; monetary and other forms, Radians of Peace, post traditional and creative 'flyers' connect, actions across communities, integration of all too often disjoint peace and justice efforts; The reference, RIP (Radiate in Peace) is to Rachel Corrie and so many others. Community support & outreach provided in two senses, by this organization and by active supporters. The works, Community Windows, AirwaveWEB, ActIndy, Collective Library, are licensed under a Creative Commons License. --> A copy of this request is available along with other resources, such as radio and website information via AirwaveWEB; events, talks, protestations at ActIndy, etc. 879879878 http://www.indymedia.org/es/2004/09/860347.shtml Small World Problem Applied to Independent Media G.E. -not the one making great profits for shareholders 20 Sep 2004 16:16 GMT An attempt to not strenth the breath of scope of Newsire being "international coverage of life, politics and protest" by continuing to value autonomously, distributed local independent reports of live events, expressions of needs and concerns but giving some weight to consideration of the six degrees of separation applied to vast local-global relations. Some form this will be included in the dated but still relevant Act-Indy. To say that it is only related to "listeners" in the Boston areas not only neglects to include the further potential of live listening over the Internet and more use of archived programs but cast a shadow of remissiness on the interpenetrable local<-->global relations. kkl;kll;kl;klk http://www.indymedia.org/content/2005/04/871499.shtm Not expecting NEtWorked adS that virtually constantly 'report' wedding annoucements to mention free/nonfree software. "Breaking [corporate] News" is part of the locales-global, GB[Billion] Integration effort. Preventing what is in "public domain" from becoming proprietary, Nonfree. 98980980990 http://boston.indymedia.org/newswire/display/22314/index.php All the best to Martin Voelker, No-U-Turn Radio... by Threat of a www.goodexample.info Email: why can't category be broader to cross boundries, 'hegemony or survival', etc. (unverified!) 14 Jun 2004 Martin "'woh' is all some people can say" Voelker, No-U-Turn Radio...to AR, Colorado Martin "'woh' is all some people can say'" Voelker, Record, and all those associated with community radio who continue referrin$ Record, and all those associated with community radio who continue referrin$ href="http://www.southendpress.org/about/institute.shtml"> Record, and all those associated with community radio who continue referrin$ Martin "'wo 98098098098908 http://www.indymedia.org/de/2005/03/871312.shtml Support "Us and Them" and 'everyone's backyard' "persistent anoyance" 26 Mar 2005 20:21 GMT A reply of sorts regarding the "war machine". It can be overcome by "action[s] at a distance" and by many more members of the "G8[Billion]" Integration, individuals, not necessarily 'Gods, Kings, or Groups' -especially those who practically think 'ole Saddamm was 'flying the planes'. Sort of a reply and then some to http://newswire.indymedia.org/en/newswire/2005/03/821104.shtml / 'Breaking the War Machine" "...but also the Iraqis killed..." Of course. There's still so many times when someone actually includes such concern in stated form, but then claims that such numbers are lacking maybe from the erson who doesn't do body counts. From the "Fog of [the military-industrial-university as well as citizens who conc ent without concent[ing] complex: "Would you rather be a 98098098980 http://boston.indymedia.org/newswire/display/46648/index.php WUML - Formerly WJUL - 91.5 FM, (same freq. as WMFO ) by "Public subsidy, private profit" Email: not (nospam) corporate-domain.org (unverified!) 03 Dec 2005 Modified: 12:43:10 PM Just recalling those Wed/Thurs and then Tues/Wed "timeslots" when Martin Voelker, No-U-Turn Radio (now at Alternative Radio (www.alternativeradio.org) preceded Hank Faunce - currently "taking break" from Promethean Commentary Plus Jazz Stan Robinson mentioned and played a program from WUML (91.5 FM, Lowell) on Sunday, 27 November 2005 ( http://spinitron.com/public/index.php?station=wzbc&plid=6389 ), the same frequency as WMFO while he was doing the Sunday morning program on WZBC (90.3 FM) (yea that all qualifies for "sister station" synergy or something integrative and productive along the lines of the program name, Truth and Justice Radio. One example whereby one could at times hear the Lowell station from say Medford (of course, MA, since talking station signal) was when presumably Martin was scurring about town to get to Curis Hall ( http://www.wmfo.org/about.html) to turn on the transmitter and begin with his "good morning" greeting followed by his own recoreded and produced program as well as those that contine to air on Tuesday mornings, etc. Though it does seem that Making Contact and ironically AR are not on a frequently! www.goodexample.info/airwaveweb/wjul-support.html Copyright by the author. All rights reserved. Please Don't Feed the Trolls Wikipedia defines an Internet Troll as: "An Internet troll is either a person who sends messages on the Internet hoping to entice other users into angry or fruitless responses, or a message sent by such a person." Boston IMC strives to provide both a grassroots media resource as well as a forum for people to contribute to a meaningful discussion about local issues. 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Comments Not another 'police violation by Not another 'police violation airwaveweb (nospam) goodexample.info (unverified) 13 Dec 2005 For the sake of continuty, though this might also be "hidden" : Maybe someone could point a once relatively constistent, crtical supporter -various efforts that complement and flow with what "the threat of a [www.goodexample.info]" strives to do: integrate individuals and groups, not "kings and such" with potential "mass indepepdent media", awhile being critical of those claimng to be "independent voices on the media landscape" and other self-appasials that far exceed the one noted) to just what "empty", "policy violation" signify? As for the "How to use this site" (http://boston.indymedia.org/mod/info/display/howto/index.php) of course one ought to strive to make most questions someone may have somewhat relatively intuitively found via navigation, "anchor titles" ( http://www.goer.org/HTML/basic/links/ etc., and other such means. http://boston.indymedia.org/newswire/display/46745/index.php http://boston.indymedia.org/newswire/display/46693/index.php all of it is here ;'l;k;ll;k;ll;;lkl; http://boston.indymedia.org/newswire/display/46693/index.php Not another 'Corporate Right (but Copyleft, CC...) by &quot;the threat of [an active citizenry]&quot; (No verified email address) 04 Dec 2005 Modified: 01:56:37 PM Not an intent to propagate a 'Corporate right or to do as "The Lessor" does in playing with words and history without much general consequent critical questioning of what has been uttured or even read from "prepared" remarks. But others, why propagate the quote that leaves out: how can he write such nonsense about international affairs and foreign policy?" , like the one "My Country right or wrong, if it..."See 2000: The Social and Political Thought of Noam Chomsky by Alison Edgley and The American Creed: A Spiritual and Patriotic Primer., or propagate anything unless you value what you're spreading, or "persuading others" to do. 98098090989 http://web.archive.org/web/20050415201244/http://boston.indymedia.org/newswire/display/22930/index.php CodeThink / CodePInk on the Cable Ready Public Service by threat of www.goodexample.info Email: Still not at <'ola (nospam) .COM> (unverified!) 27 Jun 2004 One way of looking at it, consider limiting all perspectives to just a binary one, say two world views, one that favors passive acceptance, consumption, and such. The other critical even of that they value, respect, etc. Maybe the former could be made up of corporate media supporters, actively in terms of subscriptions, buying such media, passive in assuming the spectrum of 'debate' is all there is. The other supportive of various forms of independent media. For a few minutes the world didn't look flat...Other world leakage into 'cable ready public service' 90879887989 all here http://boston.indymedia.org/newswire/display/46745/index.php Commentary :: Organizing Not another "incoherent e-mail string"? by bannedinbostonthen@hiddeninbostonnow.org Email: massindymedia (nospam) riseup.net (unverified!) 05 Dec 2005 Modified: 04:03:21 PM "The threat of [an active citizenry]", and the corresponding culprit e-mail string, for those who already know or bother to find out is a modifcation of 'the threat of a good example"; won't comment further on this but to say... Not another 'corporate right ( http://boston.indymedia.org/newswire/display/46693/index.php ) was intended to show, but obviously did no, how the default license "Public Domain" is chosen, and rightly so, if one selected a particular, or combination, Creative Commons licenses, but did not select the main CC heading above the CC license choices. It was also thought that the "incoherent" flow (never mind the "e-mail string") of connections to that "man of rhetoric" and what he wrote about "integration" in the organizing sense -the former comment was made during talk not only aired Truth and Justice Radio and other but was on the "service" of the 'cable companies... It digressed certainly but made mention of those who propagate things they may not value or in the case chosen they may not intend to spread the quote of someone they respect for his over forty years of a "lot of hard work"; rather than "tellling" someone what to do it tried to "persuade others to persuade themelves", to be crtical of even that which they value; some references for anyone interested in "moving" from table tags to div tags, etc. www.goodexample.info/airwaveweb/notanothercorporateright.html It shoudln't be a surprise to see the "man of rhetoric" on a TV in the US but like one book states about radio, if you keep your radio on for ten years or so you're likely to hear just about anybody; I also was not suprised to have the rambling said note even if maybe "peppered" with references, or 'Links of Integration", as I thought had some value go "hidden" but as Boston's IMC, and as it generally or ought to be the case, if one wants to find out or expand in something - what is it about "will" and "intellect? "pessisim of the intellect, optimism of the will" http://www.chomsky.info/onchomsky/20010120.htm 9798798 http://portland.indymedia.org/en/2002/12/39652.shtml all here Pictures of Lilly and a Dickless Armey 01.Jan.2003 02:51 James Zappia link Honeydrippers (volume I) if any interest I'll continue to compile, cull, etc.

{I} Feel Free to share with an aunt who may or may not already be critical of corporate media or may not yet accept it using that qualifier.

Z Magazine, South End Press, Common Courage Press, Lucy Parsons Center, Independent Media Center, mediageek, Freemanz, Revolution Books in Harvard Square, Cambridge, MA, Martin Voelker's No-U-Turn Radio, Alternative Radio, get the letters right: NRP (National Radio Project), Global Exchange, Iraq Journal, the late Philip Barrigan, David Rovics, Kensington Welfare Rights Union, Howard Zinn, Mary Hansen, Jenin, Helen Caldicott - "Failure" to Survive, Israel doesn't make helicopters, "Noam Chomsky's refernce to those three missing words in regards to Great Britian and the U.S. regarding Iraq", Scott Harris from Between the Lines, Radio with A View, No Censorship radio on the banks of the Charles...(how can it be that some people really don't "find" stations at the end of the dial? Granted ones in the middle are more likely to be tune in if switching back and forth because maybe statistically but...and much more.

Nirvana ('They have a van and are going to make us (Sub Pop) a lot of money")

Bleach at the time, pre-Nevermind, sold in the area of 40,000 units and suddenly... I recall Dave Grohl recounting how song lyrics were lost and such so if transformations of this sort can take place.... Dave Grohl alsso once said now nearly every "Joe Six Pack" in the U.S. can see our picture at package shop checkout stand.

Nirvana in terms of independent media awareness.

webcasting matters, media matters, org-this.html too -in need of becoming an organized list!, webcasting matters, media matters, org-this.html too -in need of becoming an organized list!,

The Regime threatens to fine man who posted Cuba news on web" - FSRN covererd this too

I would like to see a form of "news" the corporate media "missed" superficialy reported, distorted, under heard voices, and the rest as reported on various independent media (See Michael Alberts Media: Their and Ours) as a regular feature.

The weather reports, sport team sales, fossil fuel transport accident reports without hardly a mention to causes and preventions, etc. All that's not fit to be "cast aside" by news with a non-coporate perspective.

UN Oil for Food to Continue (3:06) "Reuters news service reported over the weekend that the Bush Administration wants to continue the United Nations Oil for Food Program for Iraq even after a war on the country. The move surprised many analysts who speculated multinational oil companies would use a war on Iraq to seize the countries massive oil reserves, which are the second largest in the world. Aaron Glantz reports from the Western end of the Iraqi oil pipeline in Yalmaturak Turkey"

AirWaveWEB, maybe someone in other parts of world will compile something similar.

www.gata.org go. corporate media can't "miss" this one much longer, Golden low interest loans

Free Speech Radio News (www.fsrn.org): FCC to Eliminate Cross Ownership Rules (4:34)

Corp-news generally has "missed" DMCA, CARP, though I did hear mention of FCC relatted changes at 4:30 a.m. in passing.

Maybe Public Service Renoucement radio in Boston can air Making Contact in the spirit of FM radio when it first came on the scene, in early morning hours. 'Bow to Shareholders own liabilties to concerning Bhopal

I wouldn't expect mention of growing influence of corporate search engines or issues related to the dictionary / index 'whowho, USENET groups, remember them?

'Toggle's Footprint Not another institutionalized form to tell you what books to read, movies to watch / buy, people, bodies and such.

Senator Frist, a surgeon, what else? too top

NYC Providing Dirty Water "The Environmental Protection Agency has sued the City of New York to clean up its drinking water. Opposition to the billion-dollar filtration system say if the quality of water meets standards then why filter? Simba Russeau of NY Indymedia has more." Who questioned the seriousness of IMC as viewed by others?

Turkey add FSRN Deember 4, 2002 segment...

Harlem Peace March (3:34) I'm sure this was noted by coporate media in NYC in between weather reports"

"Meanwhile as the rhetoric from the White House continues, today Press Secretary Ari Fleischer said that Iraq would not be given a second chance to correct omissions in its declaration of arms capabilities to the United Nations. This as the dissent with the country against a US war on Iraq increases, this past weekend, an anti-war march began in the predominately Dominican neighborhood in upper Manhattan and ended with a rally at the Harlem State Office Building on 125th Street. Some 1000 people took part in the mile-and-a-half walk through a cold, steady rain. From NY, Dred-Scott Keyes brings us to the streets Harlem."

Lesson in Miseducation and "Growing Up Corporate

If have yet to scare you off:

I'm not trying to be funny, actual title, but seriously, "mental health" is probably best viewed as a continum or should be thought of as one affecting everyone.

Bush on Mental Health (3:30) "President Bush's new freedom commission on mental health held a forum to discuss the future of mental health programs in the United States. President Bush established the New Freedom Commission on Mental health on April 29th; the commission's stated mission is to study the United States mental health service delivery system, including both private and public sector providers. The commission's goal, according to its press release, is to recommend improvements to enable adults with a serious emotional disturbance to live, work, learn, and participate fully in their communities. But many mental health advocates are upset that patients and groups representing them have been left out of the process of reforming a broken system. From Portland, Oregon, Andrew Stelzer has this report."

You won't find up-to-the-minute reflections about what you can see for yourself such as yes, it is raining...

The world of "Us" and "We" / Not an 'IndyUSA

I couldn't find note on 'global <-> local' interacting. Like nature and nuture I think it has to be much more of an transactional process whereby yes more people are connected to community concerns and efforts and see how issues in someone else's "backyard" are conencted and related and maybe even the result of their ("generals are activists and peace activists are advocates") - had to throw that in!

Free Speech Radio News NO STIPEND THIS MONTH RADIO NEWS?

The limits of signs, like corporate sound bites

Come on and Take a Free IMC Ride" www.process.indymedia.org

Radiate in Peace, Mary Hansen

I have to mention John Pilger - IRAQ WAR HAS BEEN ESCALATING

Inactivist of the year award winner

hey, those stones are actually rocks

PatRIOT Act, Councilor Chuck Tuner, the librarian who I asked about placing a brief reference in library especially how it affects librarians who stated she knew nothing... Boston, MA not Lincolnshire! I'll have what you're smoking 04.Jan.2003 10:46 eastwood link Thank you for the links, interesting stuff, although the vermiculite poisoning from Montana is pretty old news. But I am baffled when you say the mainsteam media tell you "the latest on possible sightings of a local man who is said to have offed his entire family with no outward signs of trouble" and then you add--"None of these aforementioned themes can be called news in any true sense of the word." What? For the second Christmas in a row in Oregon, somebody kills their entire family--and you don't consider it news? Excuse me? Are these drugs widely available? URL references to lyndax.dac....now www.goodexample.info 28.Aug.2005 11:36 socialized squalor link

Northeastern University abrublty - so it appeard - decided to rid themselves of lynx - not to be confused with GNU/Linux - see speel below. Though lynx is a text-only browser one could download other types of files but then you needed individual programs to access - to my limited knowledge - but though it lacked images when you referenced a website (one reason for websites be able to be rendered by various browsers - closed effort but: http://www.webstandards.org/upgrade/) it did allow for "home access" for "no charge." You know like software and such that one can download for no charge, or audio archives that it is no transfer of cost to obtain a audio player even if the format might be proprietary, but it certainly does not mean you are free in the liberty sense...

http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/free-sw.html:

``Free software'' is a matter of liberty, not price. To understand the concept, you should think of ``free'' as in ``free speech,'' not as in ``free beer.''

Free software is a matter of the users' freedom to run, copy, distribute, study, change and improve the software. More precisely, it refers to four kinds of freedom, for the users of the software:

While lacking the full functionality of various websites, able to read text from them (those that were not too difficult to read) from roughly 1988-2003

http://www.ku.edu/~grobe/early-lynx.html | http://www.help.neu.edu/alum_email_faqs.html Sidenote - recently heard NEU having a goal of attracting a broader scope students as the adddmissions process becomes more selective. Maybe a way of achieving more homogeneity as a result of "attracting" students from differing geographic areas but mostly from similar socio-economic circumstances. Just a theory.

Another observation that I have as of late tried not noting: when using the NEU library it seems most students are connected to various corporate media sources but maybe that is what one would expect from corporate campuses wherby its even proclaimed in those flags typically on street lamps: corproate partnerships and good stuff. Also Columbus Avenue, one might have wrote "behind" NEU" but it is appearing to become part of the campus. While walking down the street in sequence one sees two renovated buildings complete with university logo and those typical flags along the street. Upon reaching the third building I thought at last a renovated 'ole building in the area. Renovated yes but this one was a university police station. I won't comment further on these irrelevancies, like the facade on the building of the 'ole Mass College of Art that now appears (a few years now) hardly a facade of corporate caf'fee shops - most of the area is such a sharp dichtomy of private institutions of hospitals and 'higher loans of learning (for some) learning' tucked not too far from Emerald Neclace, and the Fenway is not just a park, it's a neighborhood too, and it has been for a number of years.

Usually would be more careful and knowledgable about a reference but maybe this one I will direct some critical feedback: http://www.colleges-fenway.org/environsciencesneighborhood.htm

"Restoration of the Emerald Necklace Continues"

"The Back Bay Fens, that stretch of parkway that lines the Muddy River and winds its way through the COF campuses, is one of six parks designed by Frederick Law Olmsted currently undergoing drastic improvements [after years of 'neglect' like some city schools, you know the ones being sold "reused" for private use, i.e., potential profit, not some crazy idea like an 'after school' use, art related facility, or like Forest Park School just (August 2005) demolished.

www.fells.org - http://massindymediatemp.objectis.net/airwaveweb/duckfells.html#duckfells will hold on this the point of this ramble might be a lost ramble but it is that there can be more integrating of many local and global concerns, shared domains of concerns and achievement of goals.

Bit more ramble: The prekindergarten sort of playground that was on the Forst Park site was one of the sadest, nothing compared to the outcome or funds devoted to Revere Landing - one of the finest children's playgrounds around, near the 'ole Boston Garden ( http://www.massbike.org/bikeways/boston_future.htm

-It's down from Nashua Street Park - also don't usually refer to TLDs of the sort .gov, or for the matter state websites but if they're ours and if one ever wants states not to be sole purveyors of violence then....do something...

The school also had the open grounds whereby you could play anything from kickball, stickball (maybe dating myself, thinking from the TV show The Honeymooners, Ed Norton got Ralph sick from when he was playing as a stickball coach...but children could also be creative and like classrooms that allow use of materials in ways that children are so inclined to use them. Not to draw what an adult wants them to make, using colors and forms that are expected.

One memorable drawings was a flower complete with its green usual stems but flower was a traffic light.

Last on about the school site there was an unkept, for lack of better name, a 'green space triangual plot of land' along Mass Ave (not to be confused with the one that is abbreviated Mass. Ave / Route 2A). It was, actually still is, about 40 feet by 20 feet, maybe more rhombus than triangle with 3 or 4 trees, adjacent to what was the school open, or better yet, free software type of playground.

Now that all but 2 trees have been cut down I see more objectively that they were not in a healthy way but there is something about these relatively more natural walkways and byways - the sort you can find (many examples of but staying geographically near Medford Square across the Same Ugly Vehilcle way, High Street, Route 60, there is a Cradock Bridge and another one of those 'you know you're not where you know you are areas', and the whole point is not to be in a state of self-deception, not lost in thinking you are "in the county" because your home is on a "quiet" street behind a city square with mostly people driving by, few if anya walking for enjoyment apparenlty, or to actually get some where -something I heard once: 'nobody walks to get anywhere, it's all either exercise or a pain to have to walk' so this person claimed, but there is something about such places that aren't the typical street, curb, yard or shop front - something besides the sharpness of the private/public terrain - there is certainly more interpentration between public-private when it comes to 'public risks and private profit' but that would be another verbage detour.

If one contines on from Cradock Bridge and tries to cross Route 16 to another walkway along to South Stret, Mysic River near Condon Shell? (not Hatch Shell) but this is, not the place, I hear ya to mention the benefits of any of not pushing the button for cross sign but waiting for an opening. In any even what often happens is independent of the color or light some fellow citizen will appear to be driving as if they're already on the interstate.

http://www.mass.gov/mdc/LOSTHALF.HTM

From http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/words-to-avoid.html:

Describing non-free software as "closed" clearly refers to the term "open source". In the Free Software Movement, we want to avoid being confused with the more recent Open Source Movement, so we are careful to avoid usage that would encourage people to lump us in with them. Therefore, we avoid describing non-free software as "closed". We call it "non-free" or "proprietary".

So the point of this began to write about URL change and to mention that G/E was unable to make this URL change transparent. Most former references - those that still exist mostly in Boston's (and surrounding areas but of course) IMC www.boston.indymedia.org and www.indymedia.org (IndyGlobal, distributed yet but still can have a "pool of resources" hierarchy free but somehow distributed ("small world [non-]problem" applied to connecting to IMC and integrated with various forms of independent media and individuals and some groups, "...not Gods, not kings, not corporations or even [some] organized groups http://www.johnmccrory.com/articles/article.asp?this=148).

At last references to http://lynx.dac.neu.edu/j/jzappia are now "the threat of a [www.goodexample.info]" - inspired by corporate interference, not just sort that squelches the local "campus-community" or better yet autonomous, free from disclaimer radio, one such is maybe Allston Brighton Free Radio which G/E does not get by traditional signal strength alone, radio program that one is trying to hear but obviously other matters that one who doesn't appear to be self-satisfied and living in the world of preferred image rather than actual one. Letters from Lexington of course states this in a more clear manner.

http://www.goodexample.info

From: http://www.chomsky.info/books/consent02.htm, Conclusions, Edward Herman & Noam Chomsky, Excerpted from Manufacturing Consent, 1988

...Our concern in this book has been to inquire into the relation between this image and the reality. In contrast to the standard conception of the media as cantankerous obstinate, and ubiquitous in their search for truth and their independence of authority, we have spelled out and applied a propaganda model that indeed sees the media as serving a societal purpose, not that of enabling the public to assert meaningful control over the political process by providing them with the information needed for the intelligent discharge of political responsibilities. On the contrary, a propaganda model suggests that the "societal purpose" of the media is to inculcate and defend the economic, social, and political agenda of privileged groups that dominate the domestic society and the state. The media serve this purpose in many ways: through selection of topics, distribution of concerns, framing of issues, filtering of information, emphasis and tone, and by keeping debate within the bounds of acceptable premises.... http://www.goodexample.info s;lssklsklss http://web.archive.org/web/20030212131146/http://www.indymedia.org/front.php3?article_id=214177 Love, knowledge and justice or rasing the Newswire expectations bar (english) James Zappia 7:34am Fri Nov 1 '02 address: Bilingual, ideally biliterate .... jzappia@lynx.dac.neu.edu article#214177 George Harrison, he played guitar too, not to continue meaningless titles but while Newswire should evolve and connect other independent sources and importantly with those who still primarily get news from corporte media there's IMC articles and local IMC sites too but nobody would forget that. Some questions and continuing to mind the independent media gap from a member of the coalition for members without borders. Citizen awareness for all. Is there already an open and closed (members club) digital divide? Is it time to raise the expectations for Newswire while retaining Open Publishing? Is it necessary for compromise to be sacrificed in order to "reach more people"? Should many more people be active in pursuit of independent media, or more of an interaction between the two, nature-nuture and independent media-citizen partnerships of sorts? Should IMC sites maintain event calendars themselves rather than likely compromising with a host with corporate [citizen?] card host? I have elsewhere called attention to the Nirvana's (yea not that 60's band) Bleach which at the time, early 90's or during Nevermind's exponential shift in 'radio friendly units shifted' the first pressing of 40,000 or so seemed to be in line with past experience. Granted distribution factors into it, from early Sub Pop and Tupelo to DGC (David Geffen) certainly had varied resources and recording cost differences. And not to carry this side track too far I'll leave out other likely factors. I suspect it is still the case that many people are unaware other than by name of Bleach. I think it is was a natural progression from one to the other not a compromise in the music leaving out the choice of label decision. If Democracy NOW! suddenly had a similar shift in supporters would it imply a compromise in their consistent presentation likewise for FSRN? Are there other factors that might bring this about? carry on rest source c arry o ;links osunce from jhere 90809809890 http://web.archive.org/web/20031027040016/http://www.indymedia.org/front.php3?article_id=208555 lkklka xhwxk linkas help", "problem...", and other non-specific sky falling notifications (english) James Zappia 8:50am Fri Oct 11 '02 (Modified on 3:24am Sun Dec 8 '02) address: a place that is currently not being bombed but too many obsessed with fossil fuel price at the pump not the related sources jzappia@lynx.dax.neu.edu article#208555 Newswire should facilatate and continue discussions, strengthen connections between individuals, and others involved in peace and justice and related matters. If it becomes a disjoint arrangement between posters and readers then further open publishing proposals are needed as well as realizing the exsiting format as well as policies or expetations are not cast in stone. re: follow-up to article 208371 (Banned in Boston) and the response #208497 (Nazi Punks) to #208491 (Not matter what you think his name is Chomsky) I would not want anyone to think I am part of a conspiracy since I mistyped the South End Press URL above. If this was VMSnotes (Digital Equipment even during its existence was hardly well known generally, they were known for not doing commercials and maybe that was part of the culture that for some time set them apart form the impression I have today of corporations but I will save further elaboration for later) or a similar notes conferencing systems I would refer you to article #37.0 and it would follow that this is response #37.1. Some postings are strictly informative but others demand a continuing discussion process. If the goal is for some people to simply post or for others to be passive readers without submitting critical comment or forming connections via email, etc. then much like the numbers of people apparently too busy to respond to email even when you are trying to direct various support, heart, muscle, mind, and monetary, or warn them about a potential matter related to Pay-the-piker online money transfers, give supportive feedback, then it seems to limit ways to address the passive masses who watch "Dan I'd Rather-be-sleeping and others instead of truly independent media. If connections between individuals and organizations who support independent media can not be strengthened then small movements becoming lager ones is surely a fomative task. Since I'm member of the coalition opposed to membership forums, one who believes discussion groups should be open and not limited to "member only" lists..here goes... Though belated this is just a partial response to the IMC Open Publishing proposal. I interpret the goals of the proposal to encourage more use, growth, and attempts to reach more people especially passive corporate media supporters (except when it comes to responding to ads and having an impression that whatever "debate" or issue presented is a true representation rather than the usual narrowly imposed artificial appearance of one) of connected and automous individual IMC sites thoughout the world. Selected postings from the world's sites should foster a parrallel funnel of information, resources, actions, not a restrictive one that excludes or limits but shares more of what is going on at a local IMC sites with the global www.indymedia, and as I said elsewhere global-local is not a dichotomy but an interconnected way of relating one's current physicial location and sharp perspective with the whole in which it is a part. In the area of each IMC there is certainly enough particular local issues that though connected globably to movements, particular concerns and actual physical realities, schools, homes not facilities for aging population, issues related to nurse and teacher assistant, etc. One I'll add for the Boston area, making public radio a service for someone other than underwriters. There is seldom even a close to actual representation of people who are stil quite active (others not so active are not invisible or shouldn't be made to be) but when Senator Byrd is the show topic, the expressions by way of qualifyers that are the norm for pro-war host uttered regrading him, "raving", many refereces to his age, and many others. I have often thought about just forgetting about public service renoucement radio but they are public radio and are supposed to be accounatble so unlike thinking I can influence a corporate newspaper other than not support being a subscriber there's something I can do with the fomer even if it only to inform supportive members and those who ignore them completly without offering them dissatisfication notices. They're right, "you won't hear this anywhere else", imagine a public radio station being driven by underwriters and accepting if not pleading for member contributions that in turn facilate the growing audince for the cororpate underwiters. There needs to be attention to words especially the distintions between "internation community and Intcomand many others, "free trade", "arms sales", etc. I'm not known for organized paragraphs. "Human service" or update to a phrase that reflects the supportive role much like the interdisciplinary nature of health care personnel and clients, not client-patient, and many others topics can be best served locally while connecting with the whole. I'd add the large gatherings in the D.C. though a clear showing of voices not represented at all other than "#'s arrested" reports or seldom if ever details of why so many people are out (one of the pictures from Cincinnati clearly shows (woman with arms raised, maybe) the expression of committment and passion in the faces and their conversion to action). More continued efforts thoughout the cities of the world shows what's missing from corporaste media. Also living by the choices you make when you're not at a demonstration. The goal as I see it is not the unrealistic notion of less emphasis as awareness of concerns broadens or some conditions improve or that there won't be a need to continue protesting at all in the near future as clearly more is needed to show support and influence change for all the people throughout the world whose lives are impacted by decisons of inhumane interventionists, and many other qualifies. The point I was hoping for was trying to find something that keeps up the showing of support and awareness by some but limits the need to hop in fossil fuel transporters to get together in one place which in turn supports.... Maybe demanding the dedication of funds as now devoted by subsidized killing tools (not the sweeter sounding "arms trade") for public trasportation. What might really be primarily a relatively isolated local issue or personal crusade (to use the King's jargon by anyone who thinks posting at www.indymedia.org provides you a larger readership whe what is being posted is probably something that woul be best dicsscued at the a local IMC site might find they will experience the efects of diminishing returns because as is probably the case as more posts accumulate it becomes all the more important to have descriptive titles and summarys as more readers are likely to skim through as opposed to actually reading fully. I was thinking if one way to possibly redistribute or balance activty at www.indymedia.org would be to create regional hubs, say northeast.indymedia.org, including Boston, New york, Maine, etc. and LA, Seattle, etc, forming another, and Chicago covering the vastness in mid-west, southern states I am not even familar with but clearly there must be or should be respresentation there. I'll add that all sites still to not follow the site.indymedia.org format, philly, etc, maybe they have redirection but why nto follow form. Or retain www.indymedia.org with its own articles and selected representative articles thoughhout the world with newsire in the backgroud with the intent bein that postings should be regarding issues best served by the global forum, issues related to corporoate media, webcasting CARP, Copyleft (ever hear that mentioned on CORPmed?) extending copywright laws or making essentailly perpetual, quality of life, and then some. It is not my intent to separateglobal and local like the false nature and nuture dichotomy. For instance I wanted to respond personaly to "Nazi Punks..." regarding the fitting response to anyone trying to suggest that South End Press, Z Mag Alternative Radio, Speak out and others is anything but a fine example of an excellent common commitment to goals, connbectionwith Pluto Press who I recall mentioning some confusion with distinguishing their sites plutopress and plutobooks, Pluto Australia or something to that effect, why not interbnation tld (top-lev domain names as exists a proposal or soem way to better connect presuming there are relations between but... Th other day I was recalling the days of Usenet Deja News (begin by finding an archived post of mine regarding the defucted but back again 360's (Salem, MA live on on WMBR's Pipeline, live music, staple, so is Gull's Window Circus, Lisa G. who I am still stuck on her old show name, Sick Packages, maybe now ___ Death Car Experience, no relation to Jimi, Sue Safton's Aural Fixation) when it was not owned by 'Toggle as I refer to them. Modified in haste email so... In similar way if more people knew 'whowho and Broadcast.com, Webcastingmatters, CARP, (note in addition to www.TecsChange.org, Technology for Social Change, I heard on "Radio with a View" about www.kiteinc.org who one main difference is that their computers donated to organizations get Linux installed not that closed...) I was also recalling how Digital's VMSnotes conferencing system seems to me to still surpass anything that I am familiar For instance, unlike the structure of most IMC (Independent Media Center, www.indymedia.org ) sites one could do a directory/title="string" or /author, or refer to specific notes; Also, you could determine how many replies via note 33.11, etc, You were able to search the entire site or specific notes and much more. I know Digital's VMS operating system lives on in OPEN VMS and I still miss DCL. It allowed for doing so much quite easily say convert a text file into HTML at comman level (many people today wouldn't know what command level refers to, the whole black block approach) and so much more. I am still trying to convince peole I know convert to GNU/Linux. Stay actively connected, concerned, and motivated... Best regards, James Zappia Modest but evolving, hope for the passive masses and no longer looking down on mainstream or common sense. An example of VMSnotes confereing in a form suitable maybe for Newswire: ============================================================================= http://www.indymedia.org Note 120.13 "Descrptive Topic Title" 13 or 40 name@fsf.org 20 lines 29-Sep-1998 "reply title" ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- Enter text here ............................................................................. Various outputs could consist of Director/title=globalization, etc. The format of the outpus would be in sequential listed one per line each so you could determine which one you wanted to view. If any of the VMSnotes developers are out there or any of the 170,000 or whatever number of people who used to work at DEC, many of which who in 1980 were using VMSnotes conferencing and DEC's DECnet, who could say much more about how to radically change Newswire to faciltae discussions, locate infomation, etc feel free... About South End Press "South End Press is a nonprofit, collectively run book publisher with more than 200 titles in print. Since our founding in 1977, we have tried to meet the needs of readers who are exploring, or are already committed to, the politics of radical social change. Our goal is to publish books that encourage critical thinking and constructive action on the key political, cultural, social, economic, and ecological issues shaping life in the United States and in the world. In this way, we hope to give expression to a wide diversity of democratic social movements and to provide an alternative to the products of corporate publishing." Through the Institute for Social and Cultural Change, South End Press works with other political media projectsZ Magazine; Speak Out; and Alternative Radio to expand access to information and critical analysis." for some odd reason I was thinking of December 11, 2001, and some of the strivings for world peace and tranquailty while plans to war efforts (some could do in there sleep, what effort) were underway, the day Bush spoke at another "hand-picked" audience of sorts, Citadel and the applause was almost as if those 'clap now" signs were going up, and the same say the secretary of war, spoke and I recall the chuckles in the crowd of reporters regarding if memory serves the results of U.S. forced law and order. Saw a bit of the Frontline and for minite thought Cheney conceded that it wsn't for the U.S. to decide how others shoudl live and that it migth ven be futile and maybe to allow other people to live without U.S. inhumane intervention but then he returned to as one might expect and and said people have to be able to make their own mistakes. lynx.dac.neu.edu/j/jzappia/mainstream-aw... add your own comments I meant to say GNU/LIinux... (english) James Zappia 7:14am Tue Oct 22 '02 comment#211769 What's in a name www.fsf.org Meant to also say VAX Notes (english) James Zappia 1:49pm Tue Nov 19 '02 comment#218043 How could I confuse the VAX architecture with the VMS OS? I located one of the developers of VAX Notes and my recall was facilitated via the NAWCC message board where I found discussion about what some could do in the 70's and what they can't do now in terms of fuctionality, follow-up, locate topics, and some of what I noted earlier. Newswire and many other discussion & communication forums would benefit from such features. For instance it appears most regulars follow the lastest postings, and previous ones though still relevant remain historical archive material (or maybe found via a search engine) but could better serve continued discussion. I was recently looking over Working Holidays calendar from 1993 or so from Simple Machine record label and it notes (not suprising) relevance in terms of Iraq, etc. http://www.indymedia.org/front.php3article_id=216265 "Newswire directory index listings and follow-up, debate, action". www.futureprint.kent.edu/authors/kawellb... Continued Discussions and Displaced Critisim (english) James "Champo Typo(huh)" Zappia 5:54am Sat Dec 7 '02 address: also "confused" / characterized by position held 8 years ago comment#221507 Before I receive any indirect feedback that I mistyped a word or a URL or before someone starts counting from Bert and Ernie: http://www.indymedia.org/front.php3article_id=216265 "Newswire directory index listings and follow-up, debate, action"." www.indymedia.org/front.php3?article_id=21626 (english) James Zappia 6:15am Sat Dec 7 '02 comment#221511 Apparently the "?" is now removed from links such as article_id=216265 maybe to limited connected references to other articles (though I thought more efficient tpo provide a pointer rather than to have artciles re-entered in various IMC sites as some authors appear to do. w!.indymedia.org/front.php3?article_id=216265 (english) .. 3:24am Sun Dec 8 '02 comment#221685 This time a "/" was added to the URL! cxheck links above 908890098908 kljkljlk http://web.archive.org/web/20030605113351/http://www.indymedia.org/front.php3?article_id=216265 add links Newswire directory index listings and follow-up, debate, action (english) James Zappia 8:01am Sun Nov 10 '02 address: "profits over peole" free zone jzappia@lynx.dac.neu.edu article#216265 where's that article I skimmed through but now want to read and continue discussion? I can find but is there a way that allows for better retreival and listing of artiles? The Index appearance of Newswire: Index of /front Name Last modified Size Description ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- Parent Directory 09-Nov-2002 14:55 - 2000/ 21-Feb-2002 17:22 - 2001/ 02-Feb-2002 08:11 - 2002/ 01-Nov-2002 23:50 - ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- As one might expect 2002 gives a listing of 2002: Index of /front/2002 Name Last modified Size Description ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- Parent Directory 15-Mar-2002 08:29 - 1/ 31-Jan-2002 23:59 - 10/ 31-Oct-2002 23:50 - ** 11/ 09-Nov-2002 23:50 - 2/ 01-Mar-2002 00:02 - ... 8/ 31-Aug-2002 23:50 - 9/ 30-Sep-2002 23:50 - ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- And "**" above 11/ is a listing of November 2002: Index of /front/2002/11 Name Last modified Size Description ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- Parent Directory 01-Nov-2002 23:50 - 1-1.html 04-Nov-2002 23:50 28k 1-2.html 04-Nov-2002 23:50 27k 1-3.html 04-Nov-2002 23:50 26k ..... 8.html 09-Nov-2002 23:50 27k * 9-1.html 10-Nov-2002 00:02 26k 9-2.html 10-Nov-2002 00:02 27k 9-3.html 10-Nov-2002 00:02 27k ... * 9.html 10-Nov-2002 00:02 26k ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- Taking "*"s above in turn we have 9-1.htm which is listing for November 9, 2002, Page 2 since the current front page is really page 0. And 9.htm is front page for November 9, 2002 or logical page 0. Proposed Newswire Index display: Newswire Index as of for November 11, 2002: November 1, 2002, Page 1 (or not as Page 2 actually) And following the same 8.htm display as November 8, 2002, call Page 1 or Page 0 or something that would make a correspondence between data and file name, no more 6-5.html pointing to November 6, page 6, Front page plus five pages. Carrying on 8-5.htm is November 8, 2002, Page 6: Titles for November 8, 2002 (as formerly denoted by 8-5.htm / November 8, page 6) Just sample, clean up to include article links. What's the point? Now you can find a previous article a number of ways in particular those you read quickly and didn't have time to respond, didn't bookmark but yet want to follow up, etc. Yea but now you scroll down and find what you're looking for page by page. True but if you're ever tried to search (not efficient or always effective) or sort through multiple pages looking for something or relying on the Index with it's 8.html and such title names, then maybe you think there's another way. Taking the existing titles from November 8, 2002 with slight modification to compress into a quicker readable list, elimination whole time stamp, English designation, date repeating, and adding a artcile number maybe more meaningful to more readers: 1.1> Why gun control works by Bill 06:02:03 sam1 2.1> Protocols of Elder Named Gore Vidal: Wacko 9/11 Piece by leon carter 03:53:44 3.1> The Victors, The Victims by Leo LaBranche 03:49:45 4.1> ESF FLORENCE: Disobidients action against Caterpillar by flintstone 03:47:28 5.1> HOW FAR WILL YOU BE PUSHED? by Jordan Thornton 02:50:52 6.1> Resistance. The last course by m. 02:35:14 7.1> BTL:...Canada Warns Some of Its Foreign-Born Citizens Not to Travel to U.S. by Between The Lines' Scott Harris 02:20:14 BTL 8.1> Media Crap by Jordan Thornton 01:40:14 9.1>Microchips As Small As A Flu Virus (english) by .. 00:58:02 ------------------------------------------------------------- Back a VMSnotes recollection. It was possible to do a "SET SEEN" command that would effectively mark all topics and replies as "read". The next time you entered the forum you could do a directory and would only see topics since added as well as replies. This did a lot to foster the continuation of discussions and not have them "buried" except by those who chose to sort through the vastness of what they read, what they hadn't, what they wanted to comment further on, etc. alink='#999900' vlink='#999900' fgcolor='blue'> Instead of Newswire display of this: more stories>> first page | page 2 | more this again: Would this (quick change - HTML change be as simple a change as I implied) be even clearer: more stories top of this page | page 2 | more And the same goes for going from this: Oct 19 | Oct 20 | Oct 21 | Oct 22, 2002 Pages 1 | 2 | 3 | 4 | 5 | 6 to this: Oct 19 | Oct 20 | Oct 21 | Oct 22, 2002 Pages 1 (latest)| 2 | 3 | 4 | 5 | (newest) 6 I don't expect a positive response so one reason for discussing ways to improve upon the notifcation and awareness of so many issues and not forgetting about the references to individual and organization that raise and connect with action in various forms but to lead to more widespread discussion and actions that can be proposed locally on so many items mentioned here. Though surely of interest to sociologists and historians of the future there can be more utility now! add your own comments 90908-09-09-09-99-090-90- http://boston.indymedia.org/newswire/display/9768 cjeclk links Another picture of Lilly with a non-corporate view (english) by James Zappia (No verified email address) 02 Jan 2003 News that's not fit to be "cast aside", "missed", "distorted", under reported by, you probably know, with a non-corporate perspective. January 2, 2003 We (insert corporate media "news" program) interrupt this "news", I mean clarifying coverage that it's in fact snowing in Boston to suggest if you want "news" check out the IMC (IndyGlobal and it worldwide network of Independent Media Center sites, Free Speech Radio News, Democracy NOW! and many others, including this one regional example of AirWaveWEB, radio listeners potential to connect with Internet resources (and vice-versa). Some culled, just a few, under reported and "missed" by the profit-is-the-goal networks, references for you to share with an aunt, uncle, friend, and others. Some albums imply a future second volume, i.e., Honeydrippers (volume I), but sometimes that's it. I hope to continue to compile more in efforts to hopefully inform others about corporate media's "missed" reporting which in turn one can determine for themselves the consequences. This is as well as others here is slightly revised from an original comment, reply, follow-up discussion to IMC's Newswire and Center Article sections: http://portland.indymedia.org/front.php3?article_id=39652&group=webcast Pictures of Lilly and a Shameless Dickless 'Armey Though Dick Armey and the pharmaceutical company connection did get some corporate media attention much else at this time is only avilable via various forms of independent media. {I} Feel Free to share with an aunt who may or may not already be critical of corporate media or may not yet accept it using that qualifier. Z Magazine, South End Press, Common Courage Press, Lucy Parsons Center, Independent Media Center, mediageek, Freemanz, Revolution Books in Harvard Square, Cambridge, MA, Martin Voelker's No-U-Turn Radio, Alternative Radio, get the letters right: NRP (National Radio Project), Global Exchange, Iraq Journal, the late Philip Barrigan, David Rovics, Kensington Welfare Rights Union, Howard Zinn, Mary Hansen, Jenin, Helen Caldicott, in case you've never heard of her of her "Failure" to Survive, Israel doesn't make helicopters, "Noam Chomsky's reference to those "three missing words" in regards to Great Britian and the U.S. regarding concern about Iraq", Scott Harris from Between the Lines, Radio with A View, No Censorship radio on the banks of the Charles...(how can it be that some people really don't "find" stations at the end of the dial? Granted ones in the middle are more likely to be tuned in if switching back and forth because maybe statistically but...and much more. Nirvana ('They have a van and are going to make us (Sub Pop) a lot of money") Bleach at the time, pre-Nevermind, sold in the area of 40,000 units and suddenly... I recall, possibly Dave Grohl, recounting how song lyrics were lost and such so if transformations of this sort can take place.... Dave Grohl also once said now nearly every "Joe Six Pack" in the U.S. can see our picture at package shop checkout stand. Nirvana in terms of independent media awareness. webcasting matters, media matters, organizations, org-this-too! , Independent Event Listing, FSRN samples... Roger Calero, I first heard about him via Democracy Now! and later from a woman at Copley on December 10, International Human Rights Day, but she had never heard of Independent Media Center or various radio programs that one would think are relative staples of (citizen) activists. Amer Jubran... English in a Second Land (ESL) The Regime threatens to fine man who posted Cuba news on web" - FSRN covererd this too What about a form of "news" the corporate media "missed", superficialy reported, distorted, inclusion of under heard voices (some such as Alternative Radio staples, and the rest as reported on various independent media (See Michael Albert's Media: Their and Ours) as a regular feature? The weather reports, sport team sales, fossil fuel transport accident reports without hardly a mention to causes and preventions, etc is not news to me. All that's not fit to be "cast aside" by news with a non-corporate perspective. UN Oil for Food to Continue (3:06) "Reuters news service reported over the weekend that the Bush Administration wants to continue the United Nations Oil for Food Program for Iraq even after a war on the country. The move surprised many analysts who speculated multinational oil companies would use a war on Iraq to seize the countries massive oil reserves, which are the second largest in the world. Aaron Glantz reports from the Western end of the Iraqi oil pipeline in Yalmaturak Turkey" Scott Ritter on Iraq, not something to die for / by... I suspect he means not just U.S....Heard on Sound of Dissent. See AirWaveWEB, maybe someone in other parts of world will compile something similar. www.gata.org 'gotta go, corporate media can't "miss" this one much longer, Gold'en "low" interest loans. Free Speech Radio News (www.fsrn.org): FCC to Eliminate Cross Ownership Rules (4:34) Corp-news generally has "missed" DMCA, CARP, though there was mention at least once of FCC related changes at 4:30 a.m. Maybe 'Public Service Renoucement radio in Boston can air Making Contact in the spirit of FM radio when it first came on the scene, in early morning hours, so as to make it more of a challenge for anyone to hear it. 'Bow to Shareholders, they own the liabilties too concerning Bhopal. I wouldn't expect mention of growing influence of corporate search engines or issues related to the dictionary / index, 'whowho, Usenet groups, remember them or see who controls them now? 'Toggle's Footprint Not another institutionalized form to attempt to declare what books should be read, movies to be seen and purchased, and their circle of people, bodies and such. Senator Frist, a surgeon, what else? NYC Providing Dirty Water "The Environmental Protection Agency has sued the City of New York to clean up its drinking water. Opposition to the billion-dollar filtration system say if the quality of water meets standards then why filter? Simba Russeau of NY Indymedia has more." Who questioned the seriousness of IMC as viewed by others? Turkey add FSRN Deember 4, 2002 segment... Harlem Peace March (3:34) I'm sure this was noted by coporate media in NYC in between weather reports" "Meanwhile as the rhetoric from the White House continues, today Press Secretary Ari Fleischer said that Iraq would not be given a second chance to correct omissions in its declaration of arms capabilities to the United Nations. This as the dissent with the country against a US war on Iraq increases, this past weekend, an anti-war march began in the predominately Dominican neighborhood in upper Manhattan and ended with a rally at the Harlem State Office Building on 125th Street. Some 1000 people took part in the mile-and-a-half walk through a cold, steady rain. From NY, Dred-Scott Keyes brings us to the streets Harlem." Lesson in Miseducation and "Growing Up Corporate Below is the actual title, but seriously, "mental health" is probably best viewed as a continuum or should be thought of as one affecting everyone. Bush on Mental Health (3:30) "President Bush's new freedom commission on mental health held a forum to discuss the future of mental health programs in the United States. President Bush established the New Freedom Commission on Mental health on April 29th; the commission's stated mission is to study the United States mental health service delivery system, including both private and public sector providers. The commission's goal, according to its press release, is to recommend improvements to enable adults with a serious emotional disturbance to live, work, learn, and participate fully in their communities. But many mental health advocates are upset that patients and groups representing them have been left out of the process of reforming a broken system. From Portland, Oregon, Andrew Stelzer has this report." You won't find up-to-the-minute reflections about what you can see for yourself such as yes, it is raining... Modifed from: http://www.indymedia.org/front.php3?article_id=225294 The world of "Us" and "We" / Not an 'IndyUSA or the "we in me". Local and Global tranasctional process and Newswire Like nature and nuture I think it has to be much more of an transactional process whereby more people are connected to community concerns and efforts and see how issues in someone else's "backyard" are connected and related and maybe even the result of them or in their name ("generals are activists and peace activists are advocates") - had to throw that in! Free Speech Radio News or NO STIPEND THIS MONTH RADIO NEWS? The limits of signs, like corporate sound bites Come on and Take a Free IMC Ride" www.process.indymedia.org Radiate in Peace, Mary Hansen I have to mention John Pilger - IRAQ WAR HAS BEEN ESCALATING Inactivist of the year award winner Hey, those stones are actually rocks PatRIOT Act, Councilor Chuck Turner, the librarian who I asked about placing a brief reference in library especially how it affects librarians who stated she knew nothing... I have yet to write up a formal request to various child care and education organzations (developmentally appropriate and an understanding of imerging literacy, math, science, various materials to facilitate the artistic and creative process not an emphasis on product outcomes, social (including prosocial), outdoor play, and various aspects of a child's development) to ask for children, three, four, and five year old response to: "Draw the news" Drawings are welcome from older children. If you're interested in their response and in sharing in a possible use on a web site please include a letter stating it's okay to use said child's first name only and area location, etc. You can consider simply making the above statement or provide some preliminary content beforehand. Mainstream Awareness of Independent Media IndyGlobal can possibly be viewed as a local and interactive transactional process between the two spheres facilitated and inspired by its Open Publishing nature. The IMC network of autonomous Independent Media Center sites throughout the world provides a potential to represent actual concerns worldwide by people everywhere, many views, people virtually anywhere in the world looking at themselves and as well other areas of the global sphere. It might be that virtual realm in terms of forums is lagging the concrete as reflected by visible and demonstrated action and voiced expressions of needs and concerns so this is really not a mocking by implying a fear of an 'IndyUSA. In terms of the amount of U.S. views (citizens critically looking in and out) since it mirrors the percentage of the U.S. population in the world but yet it's vast environmental impact and the U.S. as a source for the spreading of weapons and more of its influence and control. As a result quite rightly there's much need for considerable concern about the U.S noted in IndyGlobal. In regards to "9-11 Looking At Americans Through Others Eyes" The above posting showed (as other notes do) there is the potential for more views looking at the U.S. besides people from the U.S. who appear to know it's not always "handing out" candy. There's many people in the U.S. who continue to not only maintain this image as the ideal but appear to believe the ideal is quite nearly reflected in reality. There's much concern for all people, environmental concerns, justice, but in the way that NRP (National Radio Project) whereby unlike, for the most part, the voices on so-called U.S. 'Public Service Renouncement radio sound as if they're all from the same town or grew up under similar circumstances. Maybe they were all indoctrinated in nearly the same manner. ------- 'Love, knowledge and justice' or rasing the Newswire expectations bar and welcoming future supporters in terms of involvent in the process and evolving and infroming others to check out IMC themselves. A modief version of http://www.indymedia.org/front.php3?article_id=214177 George Harrison, oh yea, he played guitar too. Should Newswire evolve and connect with more independent media sources and what about those who still primarily get news from corporte media? There's IndyGlobal and worldwide IMC sites but nobody would ever "forget" about the center Articles within all of them, right? Some more questions follow and a continuation of minding the independent media gap from a member of the coalition for non-member virtual groups! In adition to archived IMC minites and process mailing why not open up further or make for less of a distinct "behind the scenes", ongoing technical and editorial issues and developments more connected with "regular" trolls of IMC. Is there already an enough open and closed members clubs, digital divide within itself, divide not only between non-Internet citizens but among those who use the Internet and in particular support in principle and other ways IMC. Is it time to raise the expectations for Newswire while retaining Open Publishing? That is in addition to all that is being reported but also some sort of more direct or obvious connection to actions related to issues raised? Acts of Civil... Is it necessary for compromise to be sacrificed in order to "reach more people"? How to get more to seek out on their oww or facilitate. Often at demonstrations and events plenty of banners but seldom see enough reference to independent media in the local area of Internet listening range, worldwide via webcasting. Should IMC sites maintain event calendars themselves rather than likely compromising with a host with corporate [citizen?] debt card sponsor hosts? I have elsewhere called attention to the Nirvana's (yea not that 60's band) Bleach which at the time, early 90's or during Nevermind's exponential shift in 'radio friendly units shifted' the first pressing of 40,000 or so seemed to be in line with past experience. Granted distribution factors into it, from early Sub Pop and Tupelo to DGC (David Geffen) certainly had varied resources and recording cost differences. And not to carry this sidetrack too far I'll leave out other likely factors. I suspect it is still the case that many people are unaware other than by name of Bleach. I think it is was a natural progression from one to the other not a compromise in the music leaving out the choice of label decision. If Democracy NOW! suddenly had a similar shift in supporters would it imply a compromise in their consistent presentation, likewise for FSRN? Are there other factors that might bring this about? Though change is frequently called for is it sufficiently understood? From history you can't assume that change is unidirectional or in the direction a sensible and caring person would hope. "Parmenides maintained that, whatever the senses might say, the very notion of change involved a contradiction, and so reason demanded that reality be entirely devoid of change. Round about but I am focusing on contradiction but highlighting change as an evolving understanding. Are there bands who mock the 24 hour corporate label and other sponsors advertisement, I mean video channel but yet have a goal of being on there? Look how many references here in IMC to corporate media. Shouldn't more people be hearing about lesser known independent sources rather than chancing negative publicity affects by increasing name recognition to say the least or adding to the perception by some that certain corporate media entities are the endpoint sources for truth with all its flaws. It has been shown letter writing can have an affect but public radio accountability seems to also require creative direct efforts since it is likely to respond whereas corporate newspapers would probably not change until a serious drop in subscriptions and sponsor concerns developed. This started after seeing the meaningless Newswire title. Which one? Well gladly there's not too many here. "If it Bleeds, it Leads See often but without reference to the source. The title I am referring to could have been meaningful for other than hoping to possibly attract readers who might have thought it had something to do with Anti-Bias Curriculum: Tools for Empowering Young Children by Louise Deerman-Sparks and the A.B.C. Task Force by NAYEC (National Association for the Education of Young Children) or generally related to facilitating active citizens or discussing Jerome Bruner's Process of Education whereby he makes the case for teaching any subject to a young child but not in the form David Elkind warns of in Miseducation Preschoolers at Risk. If someone who I referred IMC to actually took it upon themselves they might have read such a title and then immediately saw through it and hardly got an adequate representation of the Newswire discussion starter statements. I say starters because I still think it lacks in follow up or pointers but I'll leave this for now. Freedom of press around the world I'm glad that some sources have been added regarding the topic on Reporters without Borders since it certainly helps allow one to form a more complete picture. Initially and I think still Reporters sans frontières did not even refer to this site. The "Distorters Without Borders" I first heard about RSF though FSRN (Free Speech Radio News) while it like many others including Democracy NOW! it would be ideal if they were 100% supporter funded but though I admit the Ford Foundation is not on the top of my list to pick up the difference I do not know anything sinister about them or in the case of the EU funding source for RSF it should raise concern though as we know a title can be misleading the The European Initiative for Democracy and Human Rights (EIDHR) and EIDHR project id #3148, "Fight against impunity for murderers of journalists - Damocles network" in RFE/RL (Radio Free Europe / Radio Liberty) / Media Matters and other sources I at the present time I a have a relatively high degree of trust. Ford Foundation -- Grant Information to Deep Dish TV (DN!), Inc. to follow. Purpose: For the television news series "Democracy Now!" to continue incorporating the aftermath of the September 11th attacks into future broadcasts Location: New York, USA Program: Education, Media, Arts and Culture Amy Goodwin spoke at the Institute of Politics on October 31, 2002, http://ksgnotes1.harvard.edu/ksginfo/eNews.nsf/details/3A25FBED795356C18"> Taking on the System and Mobilizing for Justice and a bit of her comments were aired on (via Chuck) Local Edition produced by the WMBR news department (www.wmbr.org) and by providing this reference I don't mean that you forget about issues related to the university or for that matter it's hard to see how my not listening to WMBR because of it connection to MIT though I understand it operates in relative autonomy body (though hard to see why the news was nearly canceled) but relative is key as evident by frequent reminders that the 'views and opinions...'but unless IMC or others decide and are able to recreate or join forces with Allston Brighton Free Radio to my knowledge the only radio station not affiliated with a university and community in more than name. Back to change; as far as I know development and growth continues to be discussed in early childhood education or human development generally and calls for change continue to be a process that is not cookbook yet until maybe more of the mechanism of human nature are understood. I do like what Amy Goodwin said about DN! being part of a movement. I related what she said to a teacher who is not fixed solely on a child making a picture to meet their needs or what's expected by the adult but to focus on the process by letting the child explore various materials and methods thus allowing process to be the primary concern. At the end of each DN! that is not the end of it but is where reflection by listeners an actions continue. Have some fell into the growing up corporate imposed limits between one corp-mercial and the next? Even public radio does this but differently. Recalling the days 'now a word from our sponsors' whereby the host of a comedy hour or whatever would display a product with a sort of transparent break in the flow of the show. Public radio may say "we'll return after this break" but it could replace with "right after our corporate underwriters such as fossil fuel transportation, banks and such". Also some hosts still conform to attempts to compress say 2000 years or philosophy or history to a sentence or two. It seems in this forum there is no need to duplicate such constraints. There's also matters of post being placed in IndyGlobal and specific IMC sites. If the reason for this duplication was to connect to the local issues I could understand but often it's simply a duplication. I didn't think disk space was that insignificant a concern anymore. It seems a pointer would suffice. What about GlobalIndy feature of Pooled Local-Global Concerns as an effort to limit redunacy and duplication of the "same" post being propagated throughout the IMC network. Also along the lines I realize some discussions seem to naturally spawn many topics along the same lines but for the sake of focus isn't it worth while for all such topics to be under one topic. Or is it case that someone fears the threat of concrete bulletin boards whereby someone places a flyer over yours! Would "Add Comments" being expanded to read say "more than commenting on the base topic but a follow-up discussion and extension upon original topic, debate, etc." so as to maybe foster the continued thread in one place. It's not a retreat from my appreciation for "Books in the Sand Box? Markers in the blocks?" as I continue to mix it up. Lastly and finally just thought about fostering contacts to be on par with all those people who might as well simply leave their calling cards randomly on public phone booths sort of the antithesis of targeting audience. I tried to find an email for Ed@imc but since I have as of yet not found a decode pointer page: ed@IMC Nazi punks personal name that points to an actual e-mail address A local concern of mine but maybe relevant... The Event Calendar via Protest.net (regional event listings) link from Boston's IMC in turn gets you directly to ACT-MA list of messages. When ever I reference the page I simply pretty much do as above accept often I go directly from a direct-read-ACT-MA link or bookmark. In either case you don't get the pop-ups that appear at the main host site but you most likely see a credit card, not a citizen card or a reference to say Bread Hours, etc. Also, does the IMC get any sort of support in return for traffic directed to Topica? In expanding awareness, using one example, heard on the radio, aside from say referring to United for Justice with Peace or ACT-MA which does potentially bring the two to the attention of more people but can even more be done so as to more directly connect and expand upon the link? There's also other issues. In giving direction to ACT-MA via being directed to the main site with its pop-ups, and in both cases this still excludes people who don't sign in at public libraries, use a friend's computer, etc. Also, to focus solely on web based and not further develop connections between radio listeners who use phones or who find out events only after they happened limits development. Also, those who are waiting for corporate media newspaper and "weather" and "accident reporting" so-called local news will wait in vain unless they mostly want to hear: "300 protesters..." or "6 people were arrested". Another local topic but certainly must connect with a larger one is Jill Stein, who was in my view not a major or minor caniditate for governor of Massachusetts but someone who cleary expouses what she stands for which leads me to continue to question the third party designator perpetuation. Why not a name or a non-name that continues to stress not being part of any backroom money and influence deals (but a fan of wording positvely) and continue a movement that incorporates broad support related to the retreat from the race to the bottom but rather globalizsing peace and justice not profits at the expense of land and people and allow the process to be an umbrella that many could feel does them justice? Life after Binary Choices I wonder if these sorts of exchnges forster more discussion and expand IMC eben further to those who still "support" corporate media? See also: http://lynx.dac.neu.edu/j/jzappia/sum.html slksjklhs http://boston.indymedia.org/newswire/display/9796 don complere News :: Reflective Action {prior to} Needless Tomorrow's (english) by James Zappia (No verified email address) 04 Jan 2003 Maybe an example of the distributive nature of IMC across a network of sites and the potential of involving individuals across vast geographic separation to virtually discuss and reach some concete goals. I'll admit to first digressing on some early childhood issues that relate to future critical thinkers and a time when it's just implied that citizens are advocates and active in their comminity and connected to the concerns of others. compele done lk;kl; http://boston.indymedia.org/newswire/display/8912 News :: Laughing to keep from supporting (WMBR et al) (english) by James Zappia Email: jzappia (nospam) lynx.dac.neu.edu (unverified!) 13 Nov 2002 What was that radio station that used to air FSRN, DN!, No Censorship Radio, Pipeline, Aural Fixation... is this in samples :http://web.archive.org/web/20041206034508/http://lynx.dac.neu.edu/j/jzappia/samples.html