Stop The War (The Cats Are Killin' Themselves)
War Pigs and the Infinite Mind
Folk Psychology - intentional war states?
At times, intentionaly vauge, I am curious if, Tim Berners-Lee, Semantic Web, and Jerome Bruner, Acts of Meaning have ever crossed interdisciplinary paths.
War Pigs/Luke's Wall (7:55) Gen'rals gathered in their masses, Just like witches at black masses Evil minds that plot destruction, Sorcerer of death's construction In the fields the bodies burning, As the war machine keeps turning Death and hatred to mankind, Poisoning their brainwashed minds Oh Lord Yeah! Politicians hide themselves away They only started the war Why should they go out to fight? They leave thier role to the poor, yeah Time will tell on their power minds, Making war just for fun Treating people just like pawns in chess, Wait 'till their judgement day comes, yeah Now in darkness world stops turning, Ashes where the bodies burning No more War Pigs have the power, And as God has struck the hour Day of judgement, God is calling On their knees the war pigs crawling, Begging mercies for their sins Satan, laughing, spreads his wings Oh Lord Yeah!
Song Intro details "Black Sabbath must be one of the few bands that are insane enough to actually give their intro's and outro's their own names, as the intro to 'War Pigs' is called 'Luke's Wall', and the outro to 'Fairies Wear Boots' is called 'Jack the Stripper'. Incidentally, 'War pigs' was first going to be called Walpurgis, and had totally different lyrics."
"The Infinite
Mind, with Dr. Fred Goodwin:
This week:"Peace"
This week on
The Infinite Mind: Peace. It's easy to say "give peace
a chance," but why is that so hard to do? In this program, we explore
the art and science of resolving interpersonal conflicts peacefully,
examine some common obstacles to peace, sit in on a mediation session
between a landlord and his angry tenant, and probe the role of interfaith
dialog in promoting peace. Guests include Robert Mnookin, director
of the Harvard Negotiation Research Project; peace psychologist Dan
Christie, professor of psychology at the Ohio State University;
psychologist Dacher Keltner, founding director of The Berkeley
Center for the Development of Peace and Well-being; storyteller Heather
Forest, founding director of Story Arts; Imam Omar Abu-Namous,
imam of the Islamic Cultural Center of New York; Dean James Parks
Morton, president of the Interfaith Center of New York; Venerable
T. Kenjitsu Nakagaki, president of the Buddhist Council of New York,
and Rabbi Gerry Serotta, co-chair of Rabbis for Human Rights,
North America. Plus making time for peace... commentary by John Hockenberry".
The first half of the program primarily deals wih interpersonal conflict issues and the second with inevitability and broader global process issues.
Stop The War (The Cats Are Killin' Themselves) By Joseph "Wingy" Manone
Here's a reference that's a couple of years beyond this referred site's normal 1900 - 1939 scope. "Wingie recorded the [above song] when the United States was still not a participant in World War II. A few months later, after Pearl Harbor, an anti-war recording such as this would not have been made."
Hank Faunce's Promethean Commentary Plus Jazz aired the song and as one would expect he commented. The song was pulled off the radio (looking for details) about 7 days after it was released, before the U.S. was officially in the war.
Public radio appears to under represent various age groups but then at times will do a show about why some people feel excluded. I am not suggesting anyone should wait for leaders or for someone to "speak to them" or displace frustation about some issues they believe only affect certain age groups.
Thanks to generational leakage and not everyone appealing to exclusionary group labels. If you're chronological age is lower than Howard Zinn and many others, and you categorize people based on age and ignore what they have to say or are not interested exploring history it's possible for someone to say almost anything if you have a generational only view of history.
I have heard that the 60's struggles for civil rights (end of the Civil War was not the end of struggles) were a relatively small number of people and likewise for those protesting war. Thirty years later, other than hearing how long it took for numbers to grow in opposition to the war I don't hear or have missed positive comments. Is it because the conceptual categories, for/against and such, for referring to people turned it into some sort of binary event?
Thirty years from now will the active citizens all through the United States who have participated in free assembly and free speech in the absence of "free speech zones" and an "wall of armor" be viewed as what can result from independent media, various organizations, and individuals who without any facilitation by corporate media came together or a simplictic shorthand.
The above reference recounts the lunch counter segragation and it was noted that during film footage what might have appeard to be vast numbers of people spread out over many streets in some cases was only a block or so but a television image allowed the impression of much greater number of people.
There's appars to be such a small group of people who dirctly connect from those days and who are still active. I suspect many of the people who may have been the record buying public growing up in the 60's were probably later exchanged their vinyl reCorDs.
And that tired phrase 'if you recall anything from the 60's then you weren't there' or whatever, might be replaced with: if you were in the relative minority of people protesting the war where are you now?
Maybe there's a chance for a "Peace and Concert Report", at minimum a bit of mixing, on radio and in other forums. David Wildman, a guest on Radio with a View, (http://www.WZBC.ORG) remarked about the shortage of songs in the spirit of Neil Young's "Ohio" (writen immediately after Kent State 1970). Aside from David Rovics and others.
I was in my about ten when Ohio was released and probably a couple years later till I heard it. With the compression of the years it seems to be the first song (I knew) that connected an actual traggic event. Along with other historical flags continue to be an influence.
Whate else? A Z Magazine reference: "In his office hallway, Chomsky has a poster of Bertrand Russell. A quote at the bottom of it says:
"Three passions, simple but overwhelmingly strong, have governed my life: the longing for love, the search for knowledge and unbearable pity for the suffering of mankind."
Howard Zinn, Boston Common, November 3, 2002 (in full in IndyGlobal Newswire) some points highlighted: if the goal really was in fostering democracy in Iraq that would surely be something new, democarcy is here and all thoughout the country, not in Congress, and yes, the U.S. should stop assisting tyrants, will the U.S. be a democracy after an Iraq invasion?